Pitchfork's Odd Future Problem

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There's probably not much to be said about Odd Future, the hip-hop/skating/general weirdness collective out of L.A. that's become the flashpoint of the Pitchfork Music Festival, that hasn't been said by better writers than me. WBEZ's Jim DeRogatis has been leading the conversation, beginning with his piece "Pitchfork & Odd Future: Endorsing rape or showcasing art?"

But if you're new to the story, here's the deal. The controversy stems from their horror-show lyrics, like those from Tyler, the Creator's B**** S*** D**** (annotated lyrics ; NSFW, where W means world ). Thanks to DeRogatis's work—the group has come in for criticism before, but DeRogatis has been particularly tireless in raising the important questions about them—Pitchfork has invited anti-violence advocates to the festival, even if they're being frustratingly coy about it .

Why is Pitchfork even bothering? If you haven't heard of Odd Future (full name: Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All), they're something of a phenomenon, and a fascinating story in their own right, best told by Kelefa Sanneh in his lengthy true-hip-hop-mystery story "Where's Earl?" (subscribers only, unfortunately, but it's great reading). They're a bunch of very young folks from LA, the oldest and most musically mature of whom is 23-year-old soul prodigy Frank Ocean, who's an exception to the collective's shock rap, and just as comfortable doing acoustic soul like the AC-friendly, exquisite "Pyrite" as he his backing the younger MC and ostensible leader Tyler.

Odd Future's story is part of the appeal; in and of itself, it's unlikely and fascinating. But some people respond to the lyrics, and that has to be grappled with. Zach Baron tried in the Village Voice :

Odd Future and the acts from which they've descended make us confront a kind of disgust that is mercifully absent from our everyday lives. The discomfort and foreignness of the elaborately awful scenarios that Odd Future concoct is part of the point: it takes us out of our comfort zones, makes us feel weird and awful. Because nobody talks about this stuff. Nobody wants to talk about this stuff, nobody feels comfortable talking about this stuff, because this stuff is awful.

Broadly speaking, I think he's right, but I don't think it applies to Odd Future.

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